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SueB
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Portland, Oregon
USA
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Posted - 06/08/2012 :  6:03:19 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know anything about Taylor and Associates? Apparently they do video shops in bars and restaurants. They say they belong to MSPA.

Happily shopping the Portland, Oregon metropolitan area
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Cilla
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MD
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2012 :  04:51:06 AM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Sue,
They do belong to MSPA. The owner, or maybe someone claiming to be the owner, has sent some strange posts on another forum. So I'm just not sure about the outfit. Apparently they are very secretive.

Cilla
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SueB
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Portland, Oregon
USA
44 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2012 :  07:36:16 AM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I have now talked to them and believe they are legitimate. They are secretive and have a non-disclosure agreement. They are members of MSPA and contact folks by e-mail from the MSPA lists when they have a need for someone in a particular area. I responded to a direct e-mail from them.

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Cilla
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MD
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2012 :  2:59:40 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Please keep us updated.

Cilla
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Roel_in_Seattle
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Seattle, WA
USA
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Posted - 06/09/2012 :  10:47:05 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
SueB,

I was interested in a job Mr. Taylor had advertised through the MSPA email list. It was for a job in the Seattle area. I did contact Mr. Taylor and spoke to him at great length. He did forward me the non disclosure, application and guidelines of the job. This was a video shop.

He is a small business owner, and has a few clients (for this particular shop). I would have done the video shop and made some good money, but there were certain obstacles that need to happen. I hope the job will surface again in the near future.

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JRossetti
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Elgin, Illinois
USA
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  10:44:26 AM  Send JRossetti an AOL message  Reply  Reply with Quote
Hey Everyone,


I don't often post on here, but I want to talk about an experience I had with Taylor and Associates. I recieved a referral from Fernando in California. Those of you in the business may know him.

Taylor and Associates are incredibly secretive and the fact that you can't find much out about them is pretty much how he wants it. I had to sign an NDA and had about a 30-45 minute phone call with him. He prefers one on one personal relationships which is why you don't see him utilizing 3rd party schedulers. He assumed by becoming a member of the MSPA he would have better success. This is his first year doing shoppers instead of ads on Craigslist or other places.

His jobs take 15 minutes, they are not guaranteed so going out of your way is not always the smartest. You will get constant updates to your location to see if you are still clear to go. He'll give a final call when the event starts, and if your target(s) are not on his list then you are clear to go.

You will conduct the shop and get video evidence of what is required. there are about 10 other items on a checklist to get, all of which will be on video if you do that.

You then snap 6-10 photos outside and go home. Upload video via drop box, fill out draft affidavit to send to him, update any changes, print it, go to a notary, notarize it, mail it in. As soon as he has the affidavit he pays you.

You get $150 for the video, $50 for the affadavit, and $25 for two sets of photos. One of the front, and one of the sides back and front roof area.

That's literally $250 for 15 minutes of work + travel time. Any entry fees, OR REQUIRED drinks are paid for by him. There is NO reimbursement if you stay and drink or do not have to buy a drink.

I highly approve and have spread the word all around. This is an incredible opportunity and he looks for people in specific areas so odds are the first good shopper for an area to get a hold of him will end up with work. Those of us who travel he helps. He found a lead 2 days notice while I was in florida. I had to go through the city it as in anyway, just hadn't planned on it that day. I moved my plans ahead one day to try the job, it was successful, he paid me Monday. He overpays for a reason. You may sometimes not get a successful lead. He pays fast for the same reason.

You can facebook me armzekk@yahoo.com or email me at joe.n.rossetti@gmail.com if you have questions regarding working for this company.

Joe
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SueB
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Portland, Oregon
USA
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Posted - 10/18/2012 :  10:57:20 AM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Thanks Joe for your comments. I did end up doing jobs for Bob and agree with you. I will rearrange my schedule to get out to one of his projects. Love to do the work and highly recommend him. (And yes, I have ended up with a dry run or two, but he does warn you if he is not sure whether it happening.)

Happily shopping the Portland, Oregon metropolitan area
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Cilla
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MD
USA
1424 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2012 :  4:22:05 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Are all of these done at night? I would be very interested if there were shops during daylight hours.

Cilla
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SueB
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Portland, Oregon
USA
44 Posts

Posted - 10/18/2012 :  4:29:28 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Hi Cilla - Most, if not all of these are done in the evening. Where are you located? If you are interested in evening work, they just published a list of locations where they need agents.

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Sandi G
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Tallahassee, FL
USA
903 Posts

Posted - 10/21/2012 :  08:37:00 AM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I've heard of jobs where you are catching places pirating sporting games. The requirements for that sound quite similar to this description. Do these jobs fall into that category?

--Sandi
traditional & video shopping FL and GA
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DougCRector
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Renton, WA
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2012 :  07:31:19 AM  Visit DougCRector's Homepage  Reply  Reply with Quote
A word to the wise. These types of shops require you be a licensed private investigator most states. In Washington State it is a gross misdemeanor to do this type of assignment if you are not a PI. Other states have similar laws.
The reason is you are being sent out specifically to see if pirating exists, or as one post suggests, someone leaving a doctors office at a brisk walk and throwing his walker in the back of a mini-van.
If you are called into court, notarized statements or not, if you are asked if you are a licensed PI you may be charged as well as the company.

WASHINGTON RCW 18.165.150
"After June 30, 1992, the owner or qualifying agent of a private investigator agency is guilty of a gross misdemeanor if he or she employs any person to perform the duties of a private investigator without the employee having in his or her possession a permanent private investigator license issued by the department. This shall not preclude a private investigator agency from requiring applicants to attend preassignment training classes or from paying wages for attending the required preassignment training classes."

"Private investigator" means a person who is licensed under this chapter and is employed by a private investigator agency for the purpose of investigation, escort or body guard services, or property loss prevention activities.

(12) "Private investigator agency" means a person or entity licensed under this chapter and engaged in the business of detecting, discovering, or revealing one or more of the following:


(b) The identity, habits, conduct, business, occupation, honesty, integrity, credibility, knowledge, trustworthiness, efficiency, loyalty, activity, movement, whereabouts, affiliations, associations, transactions, acts, reputation, or character of any person or thing;

(e) Evidence to be used before a court, board, officer, or investigative committee;

NOTE: For states that do not require a PI license you should be insured in the event your observations are in accurate. Whenever you do any type of investigations you do open yourself up to liabilities, this is why PI's carry error and ommissions and liability insurance.

Doug Rector
President
NW Loss Prevention Consultants
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