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LarryT
Star Contributor

USA
688 Posts

Posted - 08/20/2016 :  2:23:18 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
The reason why companies are requiring and EIN instead of SSN is basically a legal matter.

The IRS has been scrutinizing IC jobs for the past several years because many companies that hire field workers as ICs (especially Mystery Shopping and Merchandising work) dictate too much of the job requirements and therefore the IRS is nabbing them & trying to make them hire as W-2 employees.

Therefore, in an effort to try to "comply" with IRS rules for contractor vs. employee, some accountants and legal teams hired by merchandising and mystery shopper companies are instructing their clients to require their contractors to have an EIN and only pay them through the EIN and not their SSN.

So it's not so much "complying" as it is trying to create a "loophole" so that if and when the IRS knocks on their door, they can say "hey, we are hiring independent businesses to do contract work for us, so we are in the clear".

Will this work? No one can really answer that question as tax codes are written too ambiguously to know for sure. I suspect some will get away with it and some won't. It is a strong argument, though. However, the fact that they specifically tell you you have to apply for an EIN/TIN may be looked upon as fraudulent on their part in some ways. (My opinion is that they should not say anything. Anyone who applies without an EIN gets their app thrown out - this would be safer IMHO...but I digress).

Is it a scam? Not really...at least not from the perspective that the merchandising company is trying to do something wrong to the contractor. But it may prove to be deemed a tax code violation on the merchandising company's part under the grounds that they are trying to evade hiring W-2 employees when they should be.

Could this get you, the contractor, involved in a mess? Possibly. Even though you technically are innocent, who wants to get involved with a dispute involving the IRS? It never ends well for anyone involved and it's a hassle at the very least.

If you are uncomfortable with this practice (I don't blame you if you are) your best route is to just not sign on with such companies no matter how attractive their offerings may look.
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SusanSG
Contributor

AL
USA
56 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2016 :  5:50:55 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I received an email from SNAP Audits sent to an email address only used with specific companies I work for. It isn't used anywhere else. So they either got my email from a DM or RM, or directly from an email because no one ever uses BCC to protect people's privacy. I ignored it because Walmart was first in the list of companies they work with and I hate to work in Walmart.

Susan
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BeverlyAnn
Star Contributor

USA
462 Posts

Posted - 09/04/2016 :  5:35:53 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I just finished reading a post by Tammy Little on a different forum, where she posted a simple sentence, saying SNAP is NOW accepting SS#. So it sounds like potential workers will no longer be required to obtain an EIN....at least that's what I got out of her post.

BeverlyAnn
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Bert M
Valued Contributor

Sharpsburg, MD
USA
101 Posts

Posted - 11/22/2016 :  4:51:02 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I got 2...yes 2 emails from them last week. They made it very clear that it was an IC position, but.....they offered benefits? How do you offer bennies to someone who is not your employee? I included that in my application. I'll let you know their answer.

Roberta
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Sue A
Star Contributor

USA
452 Posts

Posted - 11/23/2016 :  4:41:59 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I do work for Snap Audits and when I was hired in August they never said anything about benefits. and no where on their website does it say anything about benefits.
They pay by the job. They pay the following month after the job is completed. usually around the 15th-16th.They don't have direct deposit.
I've gotten my check in the mail 3 days after the pay date.

Sue A
Silver Certified
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Bert M
Valued Contributor

Sharpsburg, MD
USA
101 Posts

Posted - 11/27/2016 :  6:19:17 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
They appear to have offered me work without me even supplying a SS# or me filling out an I9 to show proof of eligibility. Strikes me as very odd

Roberta
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Sue A
Star Contributor

USA
452 Posts

Posted - 11/28/2016 :  4:56:32 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
They most likely sent you a job offering for something in your area, hoping that you would apply for it. They have me at another email that I have for a job that has been on my board for over a month and no one has taken it. When I clicked on the link it took me to their application page to apply for work with them.

Sue A
Silver Certified
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RobertH
Valued Contributor

Pinson, AL
USA
178 Posts

Posted - 12/03/2016 :  7:41:31 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I recently completed my first project for them.

It was a job that no one wanted to do (in fact, they had three such jobs available). I had a scheduler contact me and ask if I could do all three but, because the three were literally on three different points of the compass, there was no way that I could do more than one. She offered me a rather hefty bonus and I agreed to do the one project.

It wasn't difficult, but it surely was tedious: I had to rest the planogram for a gift card fixture in a CVS store, install new signing, place new shelf tags, pull deleted cards and place new ones and inventory a few particular cards. The estimated completion time was 1.5 but there was absolutely no way the project could be completed the way the instructions demanded in that time frame. Since the rate of pay (without the bonus) was calculated on that estimated time, had it not been for the bonus the job would not have been worth taking.

Pay was correct and prompt.

I have taken three more projects for Snap Audits (actually three locations of the same project) and the time estimate was very generous (spent more time looking for a manager to sign off on the paperwork as actually doing the project) and, therefore, pay is on the generous side as well.

My one complaint, I suppose, is that none of the opportunities I've seen so far are "audits". Each one is a typical merchandising assignment: reset a PoG, install PoP, that sort of thing. Maybe they just don't have those sorts of projects in my area.

Robert
Over 30 years in the Field
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Sue A
Star Contributor

USA
452 Posts

Posted - 12/04/2016 :  4:05:52 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Robert H: In my area, I haven't done or seen any audits either. I have placed IRC's, done an inventory, placed POP, installed display models.
They have had gift card resets, but I haven't taken any of them as I know the time they have allotted for them is not enough.

Sue A
Silver Certified
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RobertH
Valued Contributor

Pinson, AL
USA
178 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2016 :  5:01:31 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Sue-

You're exactly right on the gift card resets.

I've done this sort of thing for a long, long time and done more than my share of resets, but you're not going to find anyone who can do everything required for that reset in an hour. I understand that is all the time their client wanted to pay for and that SnapAudit, like any other company, needs the business, but you'd hope that someone, somewhere, would tactfully inform these clients that their expectations versus reality are not quite the same.

For the project to make financial sense, based on the 2 to 2.5 hours it really takes to do correctly, pay should be around $25-$30 for this project, not a little more than $10. Obviously, since there are several more locations available that no one has been willing to take on, I'm not the only person who feels this way.

Robert
Over 30 years in the Field
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DChristine
Valued Contributor

USA
220 Posts

Posted - 12/11/2016 :  7:27:14 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Does anyone know if there is a project for CVS where you are receiving a big box full of gifts cards? I received a box for one of the stores I normally do but I don't have anything scheduled. I'm sending an email to my Contract Specialist but it could be a few days before I hear back from her.
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Iron Chef Toni
Star Contributor

Plano, TX
USA
456 Posts

Posted - 12/12/2016 :  08:22:09 AM  Send Iron Chef Toni an AOL message  Reply  Reply with Quote
CAST and Snap Audits must trade out assignments. I got two CVS jobs for this weekend that have Snap Audits on the instructions.

Toni
Gold certified in N. Texas
Now doing Merchandising!
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MarlaB
Star Contributor

Attica, IN
USA
2843 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2017 :  08:07:14 AM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I left CAST due to lack of communication, Is SNAP any better?

Marla
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Sue A
Star Contributor

USA
452 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2017 :  1:53:48 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MarlaB

I left CAST due to lack of communication, Is SNAP any better?



My manager sends out an email every day with my assignment status and also if there are in new job postings in the mile radius that I have in my profile which is set at 30 miles.
I did have a different manager when I started with them, that never answered their emails. I only had them a couple of months then got a new manager, then I got this manager about a month ago.

Sue A
Silver Certified
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Tinaer
Apprentice

Newark, Ohio
USA
2 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2017 :  09:20:46 AM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I was wondering if anyone who is doing work for Snap Audits, were you required to get a EIN number in order to work for them? I have never had to do this with any other company
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RobertH
Valued Contributor

Pinson, AL
USA
178 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2017 :  3:27:34 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
I get what they call a "Daily Snaphot" of all opportunities within a radius which I am able to specify.

Which is great...when there are any opportunities.

I've not seen anything within 30 miles of my home since early January.

Robert
Over 30 years in the Field
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Sue A
Star Contributor

USA
452 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2017 :  4:13:43 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
RobertH: My manager told me on Thurs. 3/9 that Snap just renewed a contract with a major company that they had placed POP for in the past, and that it is nation wide in every chain store except for Lowes. The job starts in April. He called me and asked if I wanted certain stores in my area before he placed them out on the job board for everyone. And that they will be doing a lot more work for this manufacturer this year.

Sue A
Silver Certified
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RobertH
Valued Contributor

Pinson, AL
USA
178 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2017 :  09:06:28 AM  Reply  Reply with Quote
Sue-
That is some terrific news.
I've not heard anything from my manager, save the daily Snap Shot summary (still no opportunities).
I did get a phone call a couple weeks back from someone with them who said that I needed to go on the website and fill out some additional paperwork before I could receive assignments from them. I told her that I had already received and completed assignments and that I had a performance score to prove it. She looked at my page, I assume, at her end and said that she had some bad information and apologized.

Robert
Over 30 years in the Field
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Julie_WA_Writer
Star Contributor

Western, Washington
USA
1853 Posts

Posted - 03/18/2017 :  1:33:26 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Big Sue

No wonder they want everyone to be an IC. That way they can get away with not paying the proper legal wages per state. Wow, how dishonest is that?


Not dishonest at all. Pretty sure that's most of the MSCs. As an independent contractor, YOU set your wage. If you want a job that pays minimum wage, go for it. Most of us operate as ICs by choice because of the flexibility and freedom of choice it allows.

“Great empires are not maintained by timidity.” Tacitus
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Big Sue
Star Contributor

USA
781 Posts

Posted - 03/19/2017 :  4:44:26 PM  Reply  Reply with Quote
What I was speaking to was for demo and merch work not mystery shopping. I like having taxes taken out and having my miles and drive time paid for and some expenses. Also in California now, even part-time employees get some sick pay hours per year and that really comes in handy when things are slow and you can cash in those hours. As an IC, you get nothing. I still set my own schedule and don't take jobs/work that I don't like. Plus the minimum wage just went way up here in California and there are more raises going to occur to it, so it's easier to negotiate for more than the minimum now.
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